Should Africa Be Compensated?

[ascona]

At times I sit and wonder whether the countries which used the blood and sweat of our forefathers to get rich would have been rich without them.

I know, no compensation will mitigate the suffering they went through, but I think since some of the wealth of some of the developed countries were built through their sacrifices, I think those countries who benefited from the slave trade are morally bond to compensate the countries where they took slaves from.

What do you think?

[imhotep]

Originally Posted by ascona

At times I sit and wonder whether the countries which used the blood and sweat of our forefathers to get rich would have been rich without them.

I know, no compensation will mitigate the suffering they went through, but I think since some of the wealth of some of the developed countries were built through their sacrifices, I think those countries who benefited from the slave trade are morally bond to compensate the countries where they took slaves from.

What do you think?

I think HAITI

[yreginald]

Africa does not seem to have the moral ground to demand compensation knowing that our leaders participated and benefited fully.The irony is that the slave trade still exist in a different form, in the name of globalization.It is extremely difficult for an African to do well in Africa.Trade liberalization makes it possible for foreign nationals to survive with ease in our soils while we can't do same without sweat and humiliations.There is a new trend of scramble for African now between China and the West,our leaders think they are attracting foreign investments.All our strategic national asserts are being taken over by aliens.Ghanaians are being ejected by landlords in Takoradi in favour of expartriates due to the oil find in the area.Can we blame the foreigners?No!We are so mediocre and gullible that we still have it in our sudconscious that the lighter-skinned is better.We need total mental revolution to break away from our past.Compensation to Africa will still be repatriated to European banks and later given to us as concessionally loans for KVIP'S.

[ascona]

Originally Posted by yreginald

Africa does not seem to have the moral ground to demand compensation knowing that our leaders participated and benefited fully.The irony is that the slave trade still exist in a different form, in the name of globalization.It is extremely difficult for an African to do well in Africa.Trade liberalization makes it possible for foreign nationals to survive with ease in our soils while we can't do same without sweat and humiliations.There is a new trend of scramble for African now between China and the West,our leaders think they are attracting foreign investments.All our strategic national asserts are being taken over by aliens.Ghanaians are being ejected by landlords in Takoradi in favour of expartriates due to the oil find in the area.Can we blame the foreigners?No!We are so mediocre and gullible that we still have it in our sudconscious that the lighter-skinned is better.We need total mental revolution to break away from our past.Compensation to Africa will still be repatriated to European banks and later given to us as concessionally loans for KVIP'S.

Interesting thoughts.

[theomagnusen]

Originally Posted by yreginald

Africa does not seem to have the moral ground to demand compensation knowing that our leaders participated and benefited fully.The irony is that the slave trade still exist in a different form, in the name of globalization.It is extremely difficult for an African to do well in Africa.Trade liberalization makes it possible for foreign nationals to survive with ease in our soils while we can't do same without sweat and humiliations.There is a new trend of scramble for African now between China and the West,our leaders think they are attracting foreign investments.All our strategic national asserts are being taken over by aliens.Ghanaians are being ejected by landlords in Takoradi in favour of expartriates due to the oil find in the area.Can we blame the foreigners?No!We are so mediocre and gullible that we still have it in our sudconscious that the lighter-skinned is better.We need total mental revolution to break away from our past.Compensation to Africa will still be repatriated to European banks and later given to us as concessionally loans for KVIP'S.

Mr. Yreginald, some of your submissions are right but are not right enough to cease the colonizers and slavers from paying reparation to Africa. Slavery was not voluntary...it was imposed and forced on our elders and leaders at the time. Greed may have had an effect on our leaders for their submission but nothing can and would ever justify the slave trade...it was humanly wrong and morally unacceptable. To ask for reparation and compensation is legally right but that should also come with official apology from all those that participated in that devilish trade.

[cosh]

Originally Posted by yreginald

Africa does not seem to have the moral ground to demand compensation knowing that our leaders participated and benefited fully.The irony is that the slave trade still exist in a different form, in the name of globalization.It is extremely difficult for an African to do well in Africa.Trade liberalization makes it possible for foreign nationals to survive with ease in our soils while we can't do same without sweat and humiliations.There is a new trend of scramble for African now between China and the West,our leaders think they are attracting foreign investments.All our strategic national asserts are being taken over by aliens.Ghanaians are being ejected by landlords in Takoradi in favour of expartriates due to the oil find in the area.Can we blame the foreigners?No!We are so mediocre and gullible that we still have it in our sudconscious that the lighter-skinned is better.We need total mental revolution to break away from our past.Compensation to Africa will still be repatriated to European banks and later given to us as concessionally loans for KVIP'S.

Some of your observations are very true, but I think it's important to distinguish between the actions of our leaders and the legitimacy of our claims. All the people who suffered the slave trade and colonization deserves to be compensated by the people who benefited from it. We have the moral grounds to demand it.
First the perpetrators have to accept their guilt and apologize. After the apology, the victims have to be compensated for the material and emotional damage that they suffered and are still suffering. Compensation would have to be in a form and manner that it doesn't benefit corrupt leaders or repatriated back to the culprits.
Who are the victims? Africans in Africa and the diaspora.
Who are the culprits? Europeans in Europe and the Americas, Arabs and some ethnic groups in Africa.

[theomagnusen]

Originally Posted by cosh

Some of your observations are very true, but I think it's important to distinguish between the actions of our leaders and the legitimacy of our claims. All the people who suffered the slave trade and colonization deserves to be compensated by the people who benefited from it. We have the moral grounds to demand it.
First the perpetrators have to accept their guilt and apologize. After the apology, the victims have to be compensated for the material and emotional damage that they suffered and are still suffering. Compensation would have to be in a form and manner that it doesn't benefit corrupt leaders or repatriated back to the culprits.
Who are the victims? Africans in Africa and the diaspora.
Who are the culprits? Europeans in Europe and the Americas, Arabs and some ethnic groups in Africa.

The Jews were also culprit of slavery,read The Jews of Germany by [Marvin] Lowenthal. And it details the movement of the Jewish community into Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire, along with the Syrians and Lebanese; and they became the life-line of the fallen Roman Empire in the 15 and 1600's. And they began to institutionalize a trade link with the Middle East. A trade link dealt with:
Number One—
Number Two—furs
And Number One: It dealt with humans, the humans that it dealt with for hundreds of years, with the Slavic peoples of central, eastern, and southern Europe, the Czechs, the Poles, the Yugoslavs, the Russians—an alliance between the Catholic Church and rich Jews selling white central, eastern, and southern Europeans into Arab slavery.
Did you hear what I said? The white slave trade in Europe—because the central and eastern Europeans were pagans; they were not Christians. Catholic Church had no allegiance to them. And the Jewish community didn't care either which way. So rich Jews and the Catholic Church had an alliance for hundreds of years, selling white folks from central, eastern, and southern Europe into slavery in the Arab world—the white slave trade, which is the precursor of enslavement later.
In fact, the term "slavery" is rooted in the word "Slav." You see why we're in trouble?....Yes the Jews were amongst the first to deal in slavery.