Should Catholic Priests Remain Celibate?

[ascona]

Catholic priests are struggling to be celibate, we can say that, due to all the sexual scandals involving various priests of the church. My question is, should they remain celibate?

[Pencil]

They should not. The same bible that says they should be celibate is the same bible that says "go ye......and multiply" The Bishops came out of the multiplication, so why would they want to stop the generation?. If that life is real and still as was before christ, they wouldn't be doing it. The bishops are finished, there are none. River flows, it finds it's way! Not sure who can stop it. Bishops, get married now.

[theomagnusen]

Originally Posted by ascona

Catholic priests are struggling to be celibate, we can say that, due to all the sexual scandals involving various priests of the church. My question is, should they remain celibate?

If the world was to be full of Catholic Bishops, then I am afraid we are in big trouble. I don't really know where they got this stuff of celibacy from but I can only say the Good Lord created man to multiply, but as man can not do this alone He also created woman to help man do that as mandated by God.Sex is to keep the balance in the human world and should be practice by all, irrespective of whether you are a Bishop or Catholic Priest.They should start to be real and stop molesting the little ones they are to care for,but hear me......if they continue with their old life style,them humanity would be forced to throw them to jail.

[Piedrasalvador]

Originally Posted by ascona

Catholic priests are struggling to be celibate, we can say that, due to all the sexual scandals involving various priests of the church. My question is, should they remain celibate?

Before conjugal freedom was celibacy freedom. No animal was born with the opposite sex hooked to their animalhood. That presumes celibacy is the default. Every animal should try the default first and when that fails then comes the provided alternative. I hate to hear self-imposed ‘zionists’ molesting kids and peoples’ wives but celibacy should be encouraged.

[cosh]

Originally Posted by Piedrasalvador

Before conjugal freedom was celibacy freedom. No animal was born with the opposite sex hooked to their animalhood. That presumes celibacy is the default. Every animal should try the default first and when that fails then comes the provided alternative. I hate to hear self-imposed ‘zionists’ molesting kids and peoples’ wives but celibacy should be encouraged.

Piedrasalvador I have to say I agree with your curve ball, but don't you think celibacy should be a choice and not an imposition?

[Piedrasalvador]

Originally Posted by cosh

Piedrasalvador I have to say I agree with your curve ball, but don't you think celibacy should be a choice and not an imposition?

I agree with you perfectly. Celibacy should not be imposed. I don't know much about other religions or cultures but as one born into Catholicism, I never saw, nor heard anybody forced into celibacy. I stand to be corrected!

Por la próxima, voy a lanzar una recta a la esquinita...lol

[theomagnusen]

Originally Posted by Piedrasalvador

I agree with you perfectly. Celibacy should not be imposed. I don't know much about other religions or cultures but as one born into Catholicism, I never saw, nor heard anybody forced into celibacy. I stand to be corrected!

Por la próxima, voy a lanzar una recta a la esquinita...lol

PiedraSalvador, you can not even convince yourself with your writings not alone other forumers.Your statement stand weak as it is been portrayed. No one is forced into celibacy....but if you want to be a catholic priest, then I am afraid you get to go by their rules.Directly, you are not forced but to be a priest, it is a necessary condition. I have consulted the Holy Scriptures and I see no evidence whatsoever to suggest that one has or have to be celibate to serve God better. I stand to be corrected just as you but the fact still remains the same.

[Piedrasalvador]

Originally Posted by theomagnusen

PiedraSalvador, you can not even convince yourself with your writings not alone other forumers.Your statement stand weak as it is been portrayed. No one is forced into celibacy....but if you want to be a catholic priest, then I am afraid you get to go by their rules.Directly, you are not forced but to be a priest, it is a necessary condition. I have consulted the Holy Scriptures and I see no evidence whatsoever to suggest that one has or have to be celibate to serve God better. I stand to be corrected just as you but the fact still remains the same.

The fact does not remain the same. Your point is too weak to shake mine. I have three siblings who went through the catholic seminaries. One made it to be ordained and so is celibate (God forgive me if he's not...lol). Two others backed out and so are not in the media front pages when they play conjugal games. Wherein lies the obligation? You can be a priest in the Anglican, Methodist....etc if one insists on belonging to an orthodox denomination. On the other hand is an ocean of Protestant denominations to join. who forces who in the catholic? Some people have no calling what so ever. They have joined the the priesthood as a vocation. They want to be associated with the money and religious glamour of the Vatican and there is a price to pay for that.

Remember the famous Archbishop Milingo is now ordaining married Catholic Priest...That is a viable option for Imhotep, Ascona, Pencil, Cosh and even your very self to become Catholic Priests.

I still don't see the element of obligation to celibacy!

[cosh]

Originally Posted by Piedrasalvador

I agree with you perfectly. Celibacy should not be imposed. I don't know much about other religions or cultures but as one born into Catholicism, I never saw, nor heard anybody forced into celibacy. I stand to be corrected!

Por la próxima, voy a lanzar una recta a la esquinita...lol

I was referring to the catholic priest when I talked about imposed celibacy. Celibacy is a pre-condition to catholic priesthood, and there lies the problem.
Some people have theorized that the reason for the widespread pedophilia among them is that some go into the priesthood as a refuge from societies scorn/rejection of their homosexual nature. Once they become priest, they begin to prey on young males who are vulnerable, while at the same time their condition of celibate hides them.
I think if they are allowed to be themselves sexually but at the same time pursue their religious goals, then they will not become a problem for themselves, their institutions and most importantly, those children.

[Piedrasalvador]

Originally Posted by cosh

I was referring to the catholic priest when I talked about imposed celibacy. Celibacy is a pre-condition to catholic priesthood, and there lies the problem.
Some people have theorized that the reason for the widespread pedophilia among them is that some go into the priesthood as a refuge from societies scorn/rejection of their homosexual nature. Once they become priest, they begin to prey on young males who are vulnerable, while at the same time their condition of celibate hides them.
I think if they are allowed to be themselves sexually but at the same time pursue their religious goals, then they will not become a problem for themselves, their institutions and most importantly, those children.

So then it is not the Catholic institution that habours sexual deviants rather it is the diviants who seek refuge in the Institution to pursue their neferious sexual agenda.

The would-be priests should mind where they go. The catholic Institution cannot change for their sake only because born pedophiles found their way into the institution.

If we're questioning why there is an Institutional coverup for perpatrators of sexual abuses, then we've got a case. We cannot criticise celebacy in any form neither should we question it as a conditionality in catholic priesthood. Everybody has a choice