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11-17-2009, 01:16 PM
‘Back to basics’ has been a household term at this forum for some time now, courtesy Kwskluvi. His ‘school mate’ Theomagnusen also came with several synonyms of their cherished ‘back to basics’ theory. Kwskluvi is definitely in a breach of contract with forumers. We have been haunted time and again with his ‘back to basics’ innuendo. However, exactly what he means by ‘back to basics’ he has failed to tell us. I’m about to hand Kwskluvi over to be tried in Aboyer’s Kangaroo court unless he comes out loud and clear. I want to add ‘back to basics’ principles to my 2010 resolutions but first, I must hear Kwaskluvi.
If we fail to get Kwskluvi to respond, Theomagnusen would be a good substitute to face Aboyer’s kangaroo court
There is a third substitute but I dare not attack the cyberspace kickboxer in my current low form...lol
I need your voice to drag kwaskluvi ‘by the ear’ to answer questions
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11-17-2009, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Piedrasalvador
‘Back to basics’ has been a household term at this forum for some time now, courtesy Kwskluvi. His ‘school mate’ Theomagnusen also came with several synonyms of their cherished ‘back to basics’ theory. Kwskluvi is definitely in a breach of contract with forumers. We have been haunted time and again with his ‘back to basics’ innuendo. However, exactly what he means by ‘back to basics’ he has failed to tell us. I’m about to hand Kwskluvi over to be tried in Aboyer’s Kangaroo court unless he comes out loud and clear. I want to add ‘back to basics’ principles to my 2010 resolutions but first, I must hear Kwaskluvi.
If we fail to get Kwskluvi to respond, Theomagnusen would be a good substitute to face Aboyer’s kangaroo court
There is a third substitute but I dare not attack the cyberspace kickboxer in my current low form...lol
I need your voice to drag kwaskluvi ‘by the ear’ to answer questions
What do you think?
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I hope he will be brave and explain what he meant by "back to basics", but don't hold your breath.
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11-18-2009, 08:09 AM
Mr. PiedraSalvador, you raised some interesting questions directly to Mr. Kluvi but for some reasons you managed to direct part of the question at me. I have not had any verbal or serious discussion with Mr. Kluvi here on the forum but yet you put us in the same school. I am not definitely the spokesperson for Mr. Kluvi and I can’t exactly say whether he or I belong to the same school but I can only speak for myself. I don’t think it would be a surprise to forumers if I am to tell Mr PiedraSalvador that I am an African and I believe pretty much in everything African. If that puts me in the School of “back to basics” of Mr Kluvi, then I have no regret. I say it at this forum… yes...and I know there are comrades who don’t even know what it is to be African and yet they come here to engage themselves in recitals over a subject matter they absolutely know nothing about.
I know this will sound controversial to the uninitiated but we African have all to be proud of and nothing to regret if we are to go by history. Long before the Roman and Greek Empire, Egypt was in existence and everything that was known to the Greeks or the Romans were actually learnt by them from their Great Egyptian Masters. This is to say philosophy, sciences, the arts, religion and the organization of society had been in existence in Egypt long before the derogatory term of great Rome and Greek empires philosophers or thinkers came to exist. I know we have been educated in believing every lies of the ice people that we get alarm anytime a dedicated Brother comes out with some truth, be it historical or allegory. We read books that we don’t even know they were written thousands of years by Egyptians before any religion came to exist, be this Books Holy or not. We learnt mathematics and all those theorems plagiarized to Pythagoras, Archimedes and other thieves and when we realized they indeed did not invented those theorems, all we say is how come we were not told or did not know it. We don’t even realize that anytime we take a one U.S dollar bill, almost everything we see on it is African…from the pyramid to the Wedjat Eye to the Obelisk.
In fact no one is saying the ice people are irrelevant in history but all we want to say and make known is that the “sun people” played and continue to play a very vital and important role in society. If modern civilization had come from Africa and humanity itself had also originated from Africa, then one can logically and proudly say the world is Africa and Africa is the world… in the beginning was Africa and the word and world was Africa.we have nothing or almost nothing to learn from no one,we simply have to go back to Basics
Shem Hotep
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11-18-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by theomagnusen
Mr. PiedraSalvador, you raised some interesting questions directly to Mr. Kluvi but for some reasons you managed to direct part of the question at me. I have not had any verbal or serious discussion with Mr. Kluvi here on the forum but yet you put us in the same school. I am not definitely the spokesperson for Mr. Kluvi and I can’t exactly say whether he or I belong to the same school but I can only speak for myself. I don’t think it would be a surprise to forumers if I am to tell Mr PiedraSalvador that I am an African and I believe pretty much in everything African. If that puts me in the School of “back to basics” of Mr Kluvi, then I have no regret. I say it at this forum… yes...and I know there are comrades who don’t even know what it is to be African and yet they come here to engage themselves in recitals over a subject matter they absolutely know nothing about.
I know this will sound controversial to the uninitiated but we African have all to be proud of and nothing to regret if we are to go by history. Long before the Roman and Greek Empire, Egypt was in existence and everything that was known to the Greeks or the Romans were actually learnt by them from their Great Egyptian Masters. This is to say philosophy, sciences, the arts, religion and the organization of society had been in existence in Egypt long before the derogatory term of great Rome and Greek empires philosophers or thinkers came to exist. I know we have been educated in believing every lies of the ice people that we get alarm anytime a dedicated Brother comes out with some truth, be it historical or allegory. We read books that we don’t even know they were written thousands of years by Egyptians before any religion came to exist, be this Books Holy or not. We learnt mathematics and all those theorems plagiarized to Pythagoras, Archimedes and other thieves and when we realized they indeed did not invented those theorems, all we say is how come we were not told or did not know it. We don’t even realize that anytime we take a one U.S dollar bill, almost everything we see on it is African…from the pyramid to the Wedjat Eye to the Obelisk.
In fact no one is saying the ice people are irrelevant in history but all we want to say and make known is that the “sun people” played and continue to play a very vital and important role in society. If modern civilization had come from Africa and humanity itself had also originated from Africa, then one can logically and proudly say the world is Africa and Africa is the world… in the beginning was Africa and the word and world was Africa.we have nothing or almost nothing to learn from no one,we simply have to go back to Basics
Shem Hotep
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What do you mean by "we simply have to go back to basics"?
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11-18-2009, 10:49 PM
Theo Maggy:
If you claim to be more "African" and "reinitiated" as you write here then you should or would not have used the word "Egypt"( unless you are referring to the ones who have been led from Muhammad Naguib to Mohamed Hosni MUBARAK) nor "African " but rather, KEMET to prove to us all that you REALLY know you roots!
As Peter Tosh once eloquently said " no matter where you are born so far as you are BLACK, you are an African!
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11-19-2009, 07:08 AM
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Theo Maggy:
If you claim to be more "African" and "reinitiated" as you write here then you should or would not have used the word "Egypt"( unless you are referring to the ones who have been led from Muhammad Naguib to Mohamed Hosni MUBARAK) nor "African " but rather, KEMET to prove to us all that you REALLY know you roots!
As Peter Tosh once eloquently said " no matter where you are born so far as you are BLACK, you are an African!
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Senior Buggy, thanks for your observation.i expected forumers will understand but let me rectify this,wherever i wrote Egypt..it rather meant Ancient Egypt or Kemet or The Black One or The Black Land
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11-19-2009, 07:22 AM
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What do you mean by "we simply have to go back to basics"?
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I really wonder if you should be taken for real.We assume you read the article and did not understand what is meant by 'we simply have to go back to Basics'.Let me see if i can offer you some help...Going back to the basics is going back to our roots,doing all that made us Great some many thousand years ago,solving African problems from African perspective and with African solutions,embracing all that is Good for the African Soul and doing away with all that is devilish,refocusing our efforts and minds in the development of the African Continent,rewriting and revisiting our past glorious history and living by it,believing in ourselves and acknowledging for ourselves by ourselves that YES WE CAN
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11-19-2009, 09:20 AM
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I really wonder if you should be taken for real.We assume you read the article and did not understand what is meant by 'we simply have to go back to Basics'.Let me see if i can offer you some help...Going back to the basics is going back to our roots,doing all that made us Great some many thousand years ago,solving African problems from African perspective and with African solutions,embracing all that is Good for the African Soul and doing away with all that is devilish,refocusing our efforts and minds in the development of the African Continent,rewriting and revisiting our past glorious history and living by it,believing in ourselves and acknowledging for ourselves by ourselves that YES WE CAN
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Theomagi
You dared to ask whether Ascona was ''to be taken for real''. Just imagine how his solid question has pushed you to come out with some hints that we can all associate with, in the rather nebulous 'back to basics' agenda as it stood waiting for you and your school mates to address.
I'm happy you responded. I knew you couldn't wait to settle your part. I agree with your submission especially when viewed in the '' African's change of attitude and mindset'' perspective.
Theomagi, you may have learnt from Buggy that a lot of forumers may be fairly initiated into 'egyptology' than perceived. You remember how you unsuccessfully lured me to be in your school?
Ascona, i'm not resting until Kwaskluvi submits a treatise on his favourite subject.
Now to Theomagi and all. One of the current practices that I have read was carried down from KEMET - our past - was the lavish funerals and the veneration of the dead. Currently it translates into expensive funerals (Time, human, financial,... resources wasted). Are funerals, especially the way we indulge in them Ghana, a good 'back to basics' example or a good tradition we should perpetuate?.... after all it came from KEMET....waaaay back!
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11-19-2009, 09:42 AM
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Theomagi
You dared to ask whether Ascona was ''to be taken for real''. Just imagine how his solid question has pushed you to come out with some hints that we can all associate with, in the rather nebulous 'back to basics' agenda as it stood waiting for you and your school mates to address.
I'm happy you responded. I knew you couldn't wait to settle your part. I agree with your submission especially when viewed in the '' African's change of attitude and mindset'' perspective.
Theomagi, you may have learnt from Buggy that a lot of forumers may be fairly initiated into 'egyptology' than perceived. You remember how you unsuccessfully lured me to be in your school?
Ascona, i'm not resting until Kwaskluvi submits a treatise on his favourite subject.
Now to Theomagi and all. One of the current practices that I have read was carried down from KEMET - our past - was the lavish funerals and the veneration of the dead. Currently it translates into expensive funerals (Time, human, financial,... resources wasted). Are funerals, especially the way we indulge in them Ghana, a good 'back to basics' example or a good tradition we should perpetuate?.... after all it came from KEMET....waaaay back!
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Mr PiedraSalvador, i never intended to lure you to any school of thought. to err is human and i had used the word Egypt instead of Kemet taken into consideration the uninitiated forumers.
i just said that we should embrace all that is good and do away with all that is devilish and unwise...yes ancient Kemet were engaged in lavish funerals but you must remember such were exclusively for the royalties.This is now done everywhere in most modern societies but what we are seeing in Ghana now is pure foolishness.I know many influential men and women in society have come out to openly criticize that pratice,which i sincerely see as waste of resources and time,above all the dead is dead and useless it will remain till resurrection time.I don't know but i believe we can try the Cuban style or even what is done here...very simple and one day issue
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11-19-2009, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by theomagnusen
I really wonder if you should be taken for real.We assume you read the article and did not understand what is meant by 'we simply have to go back to Basics'.Let me see if i can offer you some help...Going back to the basics is going back to our roots,doing all that made us Great some many thousand years ago,solving African problems from African perspective and with African solutions,embracing all that is Good for the African Soul and doing away with all that is devilish,refocusing our efforts and minds in the development of the African Continent,rewriting and revisiting our past glorious history and living by it,believing in ourselves and acknowledging for ourselves by ourselves that YES WE CAN
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Your back to basics explanation is vague, you can apply it to every continent, so please give specific solutions to Africa problems and what you think will help the continent progress. Hermano.
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