Made and Borrowed or Stolen From Africa?

[theomagnusen]

“I have sometimes wondered, what is history? And I have answered myself; if they ask me I don’t know, but if they don’t ask me, I do know”
Theophilus Magnusen


After having posted articles for six consecutive days on this and other websites, I decided to rest on the seventh day in accordance with the principles and belief system of ancient Km.t (read kemet) but decided to continue after reading posting #15 of Imhotep under the thread ”this is outrageous”. For example, in ancient Kemet, the number seven represented completion. Thus, the Euro-Christian Holy Bible says that Almighty God rested on the seventh day after the completion of creation. The seventh day of the week, Sunday, is now regarded "a day of rest from servile work." We must recall that it did not necessarily coincided or fall on Sundays as we have been made to believe by Euro-Christians.
MUSIC AND THE FINE ARTS.
If we are to open a ledger in history, we will notice that modern music, basically rock, rap, hip hop, reggae, son and many others originated from Africa. Recent research by this writer into the origin of classic music and the fine arts points its origin to Africa. It is no wonder that before the first white man step foot on Africa (the oldest continent and origin of man), concerts of classic music were performed by indigenous Africans to entertain our Kings and Queens in their palaces and in African temples.

ORIGIN OF THE 21 GUN SALUTE.
When Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Egypt on 19 May 1798, with 328 ships, 175 scholars and 35,000 soldiers he was so overwhelmed and totally annoyed at the massive monuments he saw that were built by Afrikan people that he ordered his soldiers to blow off the nose of the Horem Akhet (called the Sphinx by the Greeks). But his soldiers had to fire twenty-one shots in order to blow the nose off the Sphinx: hence, the origin of the "Twenty-one gun Salute" that is performed at Arlington Cemetery in the United States.

NATIONALITY OF MOSES
Here likewise I will like to drags someone--this time, Moses--into the "indigenous African" fold, and my main proof of Moses' African heritage is Exodus 2:19, where the daughters of Jethro tell their Dad, referring to Moses, "An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock."

THE ORIGIN OF THE TEN COMMANDEMENTS
According to Dr Yosef Ben-Jochanon, the Ten Commandments of Moses were "used in Egypt and Ethiopia thousands of years" before Moses; and yet we "are still taught as if the first time they ever came to the knowledge of mankind" was Mt. Sinai and Moses. We can therefore accuse Moses of plagiarism or “borrowing” or “stealing” our ten commandments and registering it as his trademark.

THE ORIGIN OF THE PROVERBS
There are compelling and circumstantial anthropological evidence to suspect that part or all of the Proverbs were “either copied, borrowed or stolen” from the Egyptian Wisdom of Amenemope and one can also accuse Solomon of "plagiarism,".
THE ORIGIN OF BAPTISM
In ancient Kemet, our Afrikan ancestors believed in the nine inseperable parts of the soul. According to Dr. Kwabena F. Ashanti is his Rootwork and Voodo in Mental Health, (1997) these parts are:
(1) The Ka -the abstract personality of the individual to whom it belongs, Possessing the form and attributes of a human with power of movement omnipresence, and ability to receive nourishment. Equivalent to what we call the shadow image.
(2) The Khat - the mortal concrete personality, the physical body.
(3) The Ba- the heart-soul, which lives in the Ka and sometimes beside it, to supply the Ka with food and air. Capable of metamorphosis.
(4) The Ab- the heart, the physical life in humans, spiritual, rational and ethical. Associated with the Ba(heart-soul). In the Egyptian Judgment Drama, it undergoes examination in the presence of the God Osiers, the great creator and judge of the dead.
(5) The Kaibit-the shadow. Also associated with the Ba, from which it receives its nourishments. Has the power of movement and omnipresence.
(6) The Khu-spiritual soul that lives forever. A heavenly being, closely associated with the Ba.
(7) The Sahu- the spiritual body in which the Khu or spiritual soul dwells. The moral nature of mental and spiritual qualities is united to form new powers that man has the choice to use for good or evil.
(8) The Sekhem- the power or spirit of the vital force in humans. Lives in the heavens with the spirit of Khu.
(9) The Ren- the name of an individual, the essential attribute for preservation of a being. The ancients believed that in the absence of a name, individual ceased to exist. The quality of a name, therefore, was very important.

In addition, Egyptians were also "the first to identify the Gods of order and arrangement in the universe." This Ennead of ancient Kemet consisted of nine gods. They are:

(1) Shu, the God of air;
(2) Tefnut, the Goddess of Moisture;
(3) Geb, the God of Earth; and
(4) Nut, Goddess of the sky; universe

These Gods gave birth to

(5) Osiris, the God of omnipotence and omniscience;
(6) Isis, the wife of Osiris, the female principle;
(7) Seth, the God of evil, opposite good;
(8) Nephthys, wife of Seth, and
(9) Atum(Atom), the creator God of Gods.

In ancient Kemet, "in keeping with the nine inseparable parts of the human soul, a child is not given a name (Ren) until it was nine days old." This ancient Kenetic spiritual ceremony is now called "Baptism" in the Euro-Christian religious ceremony.

THE NUMBER FOURTEEN AND AFRICAN VIRGIN BIRTH

The number fourteen was also significant in ancient Kemet. This is associated with the "Osirian Drama". The story/mythology is as follows: Set/Seth (the God of evil) was jealous of his brother Osiris (the God of the dead, underworld and resurrection) who was receiving all the praise and glory. In his rage, Seth cut Osiris' body into fourteen parts and distributed them all over Kemet.

However Osiris' wife, Ist/Isis transformed herself into a bird and flew all over kemet in search of the body parts of Osiris. Ist only found thirteen parts. The missing part that she was unable to find was Osiris phallus/penis.

The myth says that it was eaten by the fish in the Nile River. Ist then made an artificial penis with mud and water from the water from the Nile. She was then able to impregnate herself and thus give birth to a Son called Heru, whom the Euro-Greeks renamed Horus, and Catholics now call Jesus.

In other words, Ist created a new life consistent with the spiritual concept of number thirteen and this spiritual phenomenon of ancient Kemet is called the "Immaculate Conception" or "Virgin Birth" in the Euro-Christian religion today. In addition, at Easter Christians/Catholics all over the world, celebrate the "Fourteen Stations of the Cross," which is a direct religious derivative of the ancient Kemetic spiritual "Osirian Drama".

This artificial penis that Ist created was originally called the Tekhenu by the ancient Afrikan Kemites; it was later called the Obelisk by the Greeks when they occupied Egypt 332 B.C. to 30 B.C.; and the Washington Monument in Euro-America in the modern A.D. era.

[alanpee]

Dr.Magnusen,in fact you make me remember my history teacher.keep up the good work,kudos.

[theomagnusen]

Theomagi does not even allow us do digest his ''huhudious'' stuff before adding on. I think he does that to escape scrutiny. I am definitely preparing to put his scary pieces under microscope.

However before I do that, I wish to ,throw a little light on the ''Sabbath day'' one of the numerous ''poisonous issues'' he has thrown unto this forum:

Sunday Christians are not saying that Sunday is the Sabbath. The Sabbath originates from the Jewish tradition and I guess continues to be the Saturday. Christians rest on the 'Lord's day' Sunday. The Lord's day started after the resurrection of Jesus Christ which was a Sunday. Then, after the ascension of Christ, The Jewish met to worship on the traditional Sabbath (Saturday) whilst the Christians met on the lords day in their new form of worship, breaking bread, teaching doctrine...etc on Sunday.

The Lord's day,the current Sunday worship, is different from the sabbath.

Christ is our Sabbath... not a day!

Hasta la proxima!
i was or am not disputing the fact that Jewish or Christian sabbath falls on saturday or sunday.today i was doing some field work and interestingly i discovered a scull that i suspect could date back to the A.D era.
PiedraSalvador,you will be surprise to know that the Jews originated from Km.t

[theomagnusen]

Dr.Magnusen,in fact you make me remember my history teacher.keep up the good work,kudos.

thanks anyway but i will like to point to you that i am not a Doctor.i hold no PHD degree.i am a trained civil engineer.i will only advice you to beware of the online Judas Iscariots,who have persist in their quest to strip JC,Moses and many others of their Ancient Egyptian Nationality.

[Piedrasalvador]

thanks anyway but i will like to point to you that i am not a Doctor.i hold no PHD degree.i am a trained civil engineer.i will only advice you to beware of the online Judas Iscariots,who have persist in their quest to strip JC,Moses and many others of their Ancient Egyptian Nationality.

Hey the man is giving you an Honorary PHD. that is a kind gesture from his heart...accept it in good fate. I agree with alanpee in the conferment of this honourable doctorate degree.

PHD in Black supremacy affairs (Honoris Causa)

Now, Name the Judases, I'm ready to Join you in crucifying them if they will not voluntarily commit suicide as their master Iscariot did after betraying our Lord Jesus Christ!

[theomagnusen]

Hey the man is giving you an Honorary PHD. that is a kind gesture from his heart...accept it in good fate. I agree with alanpee in the conferment of this honourable doctorate degree.

PHD in Black supremacy affairs (Honoris Causa)

Now, Name the Judases, I'm ready to Join you in crucifying them if they will not voluntarily commit suicide as their master Iscariot did after betraying our Lord Jesus Christ!
the online Judas Iscariots i made reference to are the forumers who want to strip Moses,Jesus Christ and many others of their Egyptian nationality.

[Piedrasalvador]

i was or am not disputing the fact that Jewish or Christian sabbath falls on saturday or sunday.today i was doing some field work and interestingly i discovered a scull that i suspect could date back to the A.D era.
PiedraSalvador,you will be surprise to know that the Jews originated from Km.t

Theomagnusen, I remember reading from one of your unconvincing posts that Km.t is the same as Egypt....Is Km.t an abbreviation or something....? help...thanks.

[theomagnusen]

Theomagnusen, I remember reading from one of your unconvincing posts that Km.t is the same as Egypt....Is Km.t an abbreviation or something....? help...thanks.
i will offer you the needed help..one of the many names for Egypt in ancient Egyptian is Km.t (read kemet), meaning "The Black Land" or "The Black One".Oh my friend PiedraSalvador,do i have to convince you that the fact that i am called Theo Magnusen doesn't make me a whiteman.the same applies to JC,Moses and others.

[Piedrasalvador]

i will offer you the needed help..one of the many names for Egypt in ancient Egyptian is Km.t (read kemet), meaning "The Black Land" or "The Black One".Oh my friend PiedraSalvador,do i have to convince you that the fact that i am called Theo Magnusen doesn't make me a whiteman.the same applies to JC,Moses and others.

I suspect Jesus Christ was a coloured man. I read somewhere that Simon the Cyrene who helped Jesus carry the cross to Golgotha was compelled to do so because they (Roman Soldiers) may have thought that, having the same skin colour as Jesus, Simon was closer to him than any other person around.

However I need more evidence from elsewhere than from of an avowed black supremacist....hahaha

Peace!

[theomagnusen]

I suspect Jesus Christ was a coloured man. I read somewhere that Simon the Cyrene who helped Jesus carry the cross to Golgotha was compelled to do so because they (Roman Soldiers) may have thought that, having the same skin colour as Jesus, Simon was closer to him than any other person around.

However I need more evidence from elsewhere than from of an avowed black supremacist....hahaha

Peace!
thanks for that valuable information.you will make history in this regard.you are most welcome to our school.you have been lost for long.

[theomagnusen]

I find it very important to address some issues here concerning my past postings on various topics. I have been in constant contacts with many of our forumers lately, I have listen to some of them and taken their frustrations and valuable ideas into consideration. I take responsibility of all my postings and criticisms in good faith as well. I know many of the comments have been on the lighter side, but it is also true that many also visit this site to learn from the forumers. I was called a racist, even though I never made mention of race in any of my postings. Today I am a “black supremacist” and I have been even awarded a PHD (honoris causa) online. I will also not be surprise to be called a “conspiracy theorist” in the coming days. I have tried to be very careful in the language I use, resist from creating the impression that the only valid theories are those of the Blackman. I have never and will ever make any comparism between people with different colour skin. I sincerely think and still believe the only intention of my postings has been to throw light on the achievement of blacks in history. I did never say ancient Sudanese were the first to step on the moon nor did say whites have been irrelevant in human history. My only legitimate worry is that we may end up misleading the very public we intend to educate on relevant issues here. Having say all this, I hope PiedraSalvador will not feel bitter in his quest to scrutinize me and keep the good work he has been doing, specially breaking the news here that JC was really a “coloured man”
Mr. Moderator, I guess I have given you enough time to digest all my “unconvincing” allegations. I will also be waiting for the title you promised me.
Hey, we are to drag the ghost of Mr. Pythagoras to a second hearing at an Esbecan Court on five counts (intellectual dishonesty, intellectual apartheid, borrowing, stealing and plagiarism). Mr. Theomaggi will be the presiding judge. Mr. Imhotep will be the prosecutor. To have a fair trial, the ghost will be represented by his defense lawyer, Mr. PierdraSalvador. Due to the financial crisis, there will be no jury. The defense lawyer will present his statements of not more than ten words and not less that a sentence. The rulings of the judge will be final and the defense will have the right to appeal after serving half of the sentence. He may be eligible for parole after having served (full time-1 day) at the US jail in Guantanamo, Cuba. In this peculiar hearing and given the fact that the accused is a ghost, the defense lawyer will have to serve the sentence on behalf of his client if found guilty. Anyway, the accused will have to honor his tax obligations whilst in prison.
Take good care of yourself and each of everyone.

[jenyimah]

Theo,thanks for bringing us this historic aspects of mankind, but then, am a little bit confused some where.
From your article, you did mention of jesus been born by OSIRIS'S WIFE by an artificial penis made of mud and water that impregnated her. Now i wish to know ,are you refering to the jesus christ we all know of Nazareth ?.

[theomagnusen]

Theo,thanks for bringing us this historic aspects of mankind, but then, am a little bit confused some where.
From your article, you did mention of jesus been born by OSIRIS'S WIFE by an artificial penis made of mud and water that impregnated her. Now i wish to know ,are you refering to the jesus christ we all know of Nazareth ?.
my only answer to this question is yes.now i will like to clarify some aspect of what i published.there are conflicting evidence in this direction in relation to that statement.there are basically two school of taught,one with the opinion i published and the other,basically saying it might not be the Jesus Christ we all know due to the timing.the Osirian Drama as a matter of fact happened many thousand years before even Jesus was born.whatever the case,the ancient Euro-Greeks renamed this character of the Osirian drama as Horus and it is very likely to be the Jesus Christ in the Christian Holy Bible.

[cosh]

Dear forum contributors, who is an African? who is a black man? are the two the same?

[Tope83]

Dear forum contributors, who is an African? who is a black man? are the two the same?

An African is someone born in Africa despite he/she skin colour... A black man is a person with dark complexion...

Fair complexion people can also be identified as blacks...For example:Mix children or poelpe from black and white parents, black and Chinese parents or Black and red indian parents, can be called Blacks too..

That's my opinion! what's your?

[Piedrasalvador]

Theo,thanks for bringing us this historic aspects of mankind, but then, am a little bit confused some where.
From your article, you did mention of jesus been born by OSIRIS'S WIFE by an artificial penis made of mud and water that impregnated her. Now i wish to know ,are you refering to the jesus christ we all know of Nazareth ?.


Jenyimah, the Horus or Osirian drama could not have been about the Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Indeed ‘Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever’. I once said it at this forum and some did not get the message that ‘’when in spiritual matters we say that something is written, it does not necessarily mean written in ‘black and white’ but rather, that it is a declaration of God Almighty’’.

The Spirit of Jesus Christ who also became flesh and blood transcends time. No wonder the Osirian drama is said to have been long before the incarnation of Jesus. Remember He said ‘before Abraham was, I am’ the famous High Priest Melchisedech who was without genealogy but is a priest forever resembles Jesus Christ a lot and no one fits better into that description even till today than Jesus himself. Remember Melchisedech was called the king of Salem ‘’king of Peace’’. Why all this winding around?

Because God created man in His own Image and Has sought always to commune with man… remember ‘Emmanuel: God with us’. He has made all his intensions with man already known…remember ‘’it is written’’. The pinnacle of God’s communion with man is the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ. The forces of darkness have always sought to thwart the good intension of God. But because evil is always proud. It did not occur to the Evil that the so called king to be born must die a shameful death as a ransom to restore the lost state of Spiritual immortality to man. The forces of darkness have therefore orchestrated myriads of imposter ‘saviours’ long before Jesus’ birth and thereafter. The Osiris drama is just one of those highly placed evil schemes of Gods Archenemies.
How does God work? Never forget this…He does nothing without informing his Prophets..True prophets. God’s Word, though may be written, is often coded…not evident to whom it not given. And the mode of giving is through revelation. Call it the ‘revealed Word of God’ it is not necessarily available to scholars, but to those who seek in humility. The coming in Flesh of Jesus Christ was preceded by so many prophesies, howbeit, only special people were gifted to know the exact time…God’s wisdom to outdo the imposters.

The prophet Daniel (Daniel Chapter 9 verse 20…) proves that the exact time of Jesus’ birth could be deduced from the time of his glorious death which was to happen 70 weeks from the captivity of Israel. This was revealed to the Prophet Daniel who was humbly expectant of the promised kingdom. No wonder that when such an important message was been sent to Daniel, the Prince of Persia sought to restrain the Angel Gabriel until the Wonder Angel Michael came to clear the way. Who is this Michael? You want to understand the mysteries of God? Just go in humility, God is more than willing to give us unsearchable wisdom. He meant it for us. Praise be to His holy Name!.
John the Baptist was brought to this Physical world only to herald the coming of Christ at the appointed time. In order that He (Christ) be not mistaken for an imposter, a True prophet, the only person Israel will believe, was sent to bear witness. Why did the intelligentsia of Israel of the day not believe? Another subject matter!


I Timothy 3:16 ‘ And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory’’.

Let me add to the quoted bible text without any intention of assuming any imperfection as it stands that …’’…and all happened at the appointed time…

The Jesus Christ of Nazareth we know ,no matter what skin colour he bore, could not have been the one in the Osirian drama!

[theomagnusen]

Jenyimah, the Horus or Osirian drama could not have been about the Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Indeed ‘Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever’. I once said it at this forum and some did not get the message that ‘’when in spiritual matters we say that something is written, it does not necessarily mean written in ‘black and white’ but rather, that it is a declaration of God Almighty’’.

The Spirit of Jesus Christ who also became flesh and blood transcends time. No wonder the Osirian drama is said to have been long before the incarnation of Jesus. Remember He said ‘before Abraham was, I am’ the famous High Priest Melchisedech who was without genealogy but is a priest forever resembles Jesus Christ a lot and no one fits better into that description even till today than Jesus himself. Remember Melchisedech was called the king of Salem ‘’king of Peace’’. Why all this winding around?

Because God created man in His own Image and Has sought always to commune with man… remember ‘Emmanuel: God with us’. He has made all his intensions with man already known…remember ‘’it is written’’. The pinnacle of God’s communion with man is the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ. The forces of darkness have always sought to thwart the good intension of God. But because evil is always proud. It did not occur to the Evil that the so called king to be born must die a shameful death as a ransom to restore the lost state of Spiritual immortality to man. The forces of darkness have therefore orchestrated myriads of imposter ‘saviours’ long before Jesus’ birth and thereafter. The Osiris drama is just one of those highly placed evil schemes of Gods Archenemies.
How does God work? Never forget this…He does nothing without informing his Prophets..True prophets. God’s Word, though may be written, is often coded…not evident to whom it not given. And the mode of giving is through revelation. Call it the ‘revealed Word of God’ it is not necessarily available to scholars, but to those who seek in humility. The coming in Flesh of Jesus Christ was preceded by so many prophesies, howbeit, only special people were gifted to know the exact time…God’s wisdom to outdo the imposters.

The prophet Daniel (Daniel Chapter 9 verse 20…) proves that the exact time of Jesus’ birth could be deduced from the time of his glorious death which was to happen 70 weeks from the captivity of Israel. This was revealed to the Prophet Daniel who was humbly expectant of the promised kingdom. No wonder that when such an important message was been sent to Daniel, the Prince of Persia sought to restrain the Angel Gabriel until the Wonder Angel Michael came to clear the way. Who is this Michael? You want to understand the mysteries of God? Just go in humility, God is more than willing to give us unsearchable wisdom. He meant it for us. Praise be to His holy Name!.
John the Baptist was brought to this Physical world only to herald the coming of Christ at the appointed time. In order that He (Christ) be not mistaken for an imposter, a True prophet, the only person Israel will believe, was sent to bear witness. Why did the intelligentsia of Israel of the day not believe? Another subject matter!


I Timothy 3:16 ‘ And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory’’.

Let me add to the quoted bible text without any intention of assuming any imperfection as it stands that …’’…and all happened at the appointed time…

The Jesus Christ of Nazareth we know ,no matter what skin colour he bore, could not have been the one in the Osirian drama!
PiedraSalvador,i welcome your points and facts but i suspect something really went on wrong along the way.why would the people of Israel reject or even not recognize one of their own as you stated?.don't you suspect they took Horus for the real guy and Jesus as some imposter?

[theomagnusen]

Dear forum contributors, who is an African? who is a black man? are the two the same?
"if you are a blackman and have the black identity,then you are an African.no matter where you come from and your nationality,you are an African" Peter Tosh
Black and Africa is the same word,they are inter-independent.there can not be an African without the black or "negritud' element.i think i made extensive comments on this in one of my posting under the thread"this is outrageous".i will rather prefare to send you some info to your private email on that topic

[theomagnusen]

Remember not everybody in Israel rejected Jesus. John the Baptist, who was given the spiritual signal to Identify him did so correctly. When Jesus demonstrated his ability to see beyond physical obstacles, Philip, one of the early disciples immediately admitted that He is the Lord. The disciples of John the Baptist readily and immediately followed Jesus while John, himself a Prophet,knowing Jesus had it all, allowed his disciples to follow Him. Remember Simeon and Hannah who were devoutly awaiting the consolation of Israel saw and recognized him even as an eight-day old boy and praised God for his faithfulness (Luke Chapter two). What was the most striking character of those who believed Him? They were humble seekers of the truth...

How about the Organized Priesthood who pretended to have all knowledge?.. those who sat at the highest seats in public gatherings....Fed fat on the offering of the poor and thought human arrangement was wisdom? These were those described by Jesus as the 'blind leaders of the blind'.. Paul the Apostle was Eager to know the true God and was zealously applying what he had learned from the law and ancillary human institutions until based on his hearts desire, had a revelation of the Truth, Met Jesus Christ personally soon after his Physical ascension. What did Paul say then? He rubbished all his previous knowledge and said ''I count it all lost for the sake of Christ''.

In synthesis, those who mattered and needed to believe Him (Jesus Christ) for the Gospel to spread, did recognize him. The reason that he was not Officially recognized was also prophetic...known to God and part of his plans so that the 'Good News' could reach the Gentiles.

Don't forget He made a whole nation out of Abraham who was as good as Dead. It takes only one good grain of maize to get a cob or two, from thence, the increase of grains is in exponential proportions.

Have a good day Dr Black!
you are missing the content of my post.i refered to Jews in general, but many in the jewish community and the jewish religion itself do not even recognize that Jesus ever was on earth.my point in this direction is,how will the Jews(both ancient and modern) would reject one of their own?.don't you suspect they took Horus for the "real guy" and the later as "fake or imposter"?

[Piedrasalvador]

you are missing the content of my post.i refered to Jews in general, but many in the jewish community and the jewish religion itself do not even recognize that Jesus ever was on earth.my point in this direction is,how will the Jews(both ancient and modern) would reject one of their own?.don't you suspect they took Horus for the "real guy" and the later as "fake or imposter"?

Oh I get you now!. (Thanks for your patience!)

The answer is... it's possible they have confused one for the other. However, if we go by the fact that Israeli Jews (just by 'hear say'. I haven't read much on the Jewish side) are still expecting the Messiah, then we can reduce it to a case of rejection of the Messiah when he was here, and not a question of confused identity.

my view

[Tope83]

"if you are a blackman and have the black identity,then you are an African.no matter where you come from and your nationality,you are an African" Peter Tosh
Black and Africa is the same word,they are inter-independent.there can not be an African without the black or "negritud' element.i think i made extensive comments on this in one of my posting under the thread"this is outrageous".i will rather prefare to send you some info to your private email on that topic

Thnx for breaking it down for us my brudda...BRAVO!

[theomagnusen]

Thnx for breaking it down for us my brudda...BRAVO!


I just remembered a few days ago, we celebrated the African Union day and also realized my opinion given in answer to Cosh has been too superficial. I will once again like to introduce here the concept of “The International African Community”. The word “Africa” and “Black” are synonymous. Blacks will always remain African as Africa will always remain Black. There are basically two skin colours in humanity, been the rest off springs or mixture of the two. Base on this fact, one can only say that, irrespective of one’s nationality, the International African Community concept still hold and is valid. If we are to go back to history, we can realize there are no way the Eskimos or Whites could have originated from Africa. The same is valid the other way round. In other words, Blacks are exclusive to Africa. A classic example of this in the western world is the terminology “Black-American”. Though with its racial or colour profiling, the terminology fits well in recognizing that Blacks are exclusive product of Africa. When an American refers to a person of colour, the word Black always takes the form of a noun that qualifies the proverb. We hardly hear a White migrated to the Americas been referred to as Euro-American.

[theomagnusen]

Oh I get you now!. (Thanks for your patience!)

The answer is... it's possible they have confused one for the other. However, if we go by the fact that Israeli Jews (just by 'hear say'. I haven't read much on the Jewish side) are still expecting the Messiah, then we can reduce it to a case of rejection of the Messiah when he was here, and not a question of confused identity.

my view
why do you ty to confuse yourself and the masses.if the cup fits Horus,let him wear it

[Piedrasalvador]

why do you ty to confuse yourself and the masses.if the cup fits Horus,let him wear it

By the time I finish dealing with you and your Horus, you'll salute anything wearing a thorny crown and spread over a cross to avoid a second mistake!

Jesus Christ is Just Him....that's all!

[Tope83]

imhotep, where u at?

[cosh]

Theo thanks for the article you sent me. I still find your explanation a bit confusing and contradictory with most scientific research.
I don't think black is exclusively African and African is exclusively black, presently and historically. Are the dark-skin people of Oceania African? Is a mixed "African-American" an African?
There is an abundance of scientific data that proves that the genetic make-up of people of all skin colors and from different geographical regions of the earth, is very similar and can be traced to a common ancestor, hence to a common location. Most studies trace the origins of modern humans to Africa, and so logically white ancestors of modern-day whites and Eskimos migrated from Africa.
I think the concept of African comprises multiple factors like, the skin color, the identity and the experience.

[theomagnusen]

Theo thanks for the article you sent me. I still find your explanation a bit confusing and contradictory with most scientific research.
I don't think black is exclusively African and African is exclusively black, presently and historically. Are the dark-skin people of Oceania African? Is a mixed "African-American" an African?
There is an abundance of scientific data that proves that the genetic make-up of people of all skin colors and from different geographical regions of the earth, is very similar and can be traced to a common ancestor, hence to a common location. Most studies trace the origins of modern humans to Africa, and so logically white ancestors of modern-day whites and Eskimos migrated from Africa.
I think the concept of African comprises multiple factors like, the skin color, the identity and the experience.

Mr Cosh, I sincerely understand your frustration and all the confusion in your head.i will like to point that continent; nationality and identity are not to be seen as the same. I answered your questions with the facts I have, both scientific and historical. In so doing, I tried not to tackle certain issues that might give the perception that I am a “racist” or “conspiracy theorist”. I guess you did read my past postings on African issue…do you know some even awarded me online PHD in Black Supremacy Affairs?..Anyway going to the point, the historical, DNA, anthropological and other substantial evidence point Africa to be the origin of mankind; white and black. I think in this regard it wouldn’t be wrong if I am to say “Blacks” are exclusive products of Africa.
About three years ago, a human skeleton was found in South Africa. According to experts, that skeleton is several millions years old and all indications points to the fact that it is the oldest ever to be discovered and the experts suspect it to be the oldest human to have ever existed on Earth. I never mentioned this issue so as not to bore forumres with “unconvincing allegations” of African supremacy.
Cosh; be proud of yourself for you and I and them are the most pure on land

[theomagnusen]

By the time I finish dealing with you and your Horus, you'll salute anything wearing a thorny crown and spread over a cross to avoid a second mistake!

Jesus Christ is Just Him....that's all!
i sincerely admire your passion and love for Jesus Christ....now PiedraSalvador,concerning the often used Christian claim that Christ was the one to whom God was speaking when He said"Let us make man in our image".note here that "it could not have been Jesus Christ....He was not born"

[Piedrasalvador]

i sincerely admire your passion and love for Jesus Christ....now PiedraSalvador,concerning the often used Christian claim that Christ was the one to whom God was speaking when He said"Let us make man in our image".note here that "it could not have been Jesus Christ....He was not born"


Thanks for the compliments. Sounds even more encouraging coming from Dr… (know what).
Jesus Christ once said, ‘’Before Abraham was, I am’’ Indeed if He is the Truth, then the Truth must hold throughout His written Word without contradiction…such as the statement in question , which was made before Abraham, meaning, He (Jesus Christ ) could have been there to be the addressee of that statement. Howbeit, in another of His manifold attributes.

Proof?
In that statement (Genesis 1:26) God was addressing the Hand of God, the Finger of God or the Word of God who is the creative attribute of the same one unseen God. Remember that elsewhere He said and I paraphrase: ‘’ I send my Word and He (Word) accomplishes whatever I so declare…” . This is the Holy Spirit who was to be manifested later as a man.

Why?
God said ‘’let’s make man in our image’’ The unseen God if He really is perfect, had to demonstrate to man His ‘manness’ so that man is without excuse.

How?
When the Angel Gabriel delivered the message that the Virgin Mary was to be with a child, Mary asked ‘’How could this be possible since I have never met with a man?’ What did the Angel say? He said “to God there shall be nothing impossible...!’’ and that ‘’The Holy Spirit shall overshadow thee (Virgin Mary)…..

So you see the link? The Holy Spirit to whom Gods statement was addressed somewhere within eternity, became the seed in the Virgin Mary. God could 99.99% probably have been addressing the then unmanifested Jesus Christ.

Praise God for his unsearchable wisdom!

[theomagnusen]

Thanks for the compliments. Sounds even more encouraging coming from Dr… (know what).
Jesus Christ once said, ‘’Before Abraham was, I am’’ Indeed if He is the Truth, then the Truth must hold throughout His written Word without contradiction…such as the statement in question , which was made before Abraham, meaning, He (Jesus Christ ) could have been there to be the addressee of that statement. Howbeit, in another of His manifold attributes.

Proof?
In that statement (Genesis 1:26) God was addressing the Hand of God, the Finger of God or the Word of God who is the creative attribute of the same one unseen God. Remember that elsewhere He said and I paraphrase: ‘’ I send my Word and He (Word) accomplishes whatever I so declare…” . This is the Holy Spirit who was to be manifested later as a man.

Why?
God said ‘’let’s make man in our image’’ The unseen God if He really is perfect, had to demonstrate to man His ‘manness’ so that man is without excuse.

How?
When the Angel Gabriel delivered the message that the Virgin Mary was to be with a child, Mary asked ‘’How could this be possible since I have never met with a man?’ What did the Angel say? He said “to God there shall be nothing impossible...!’’ and that ‘’The Holy Spirit shall overshadow thee (Virgin Mary)…..

So you see the link? The Holy Spirit to whom Gods statement was addressed somewhere within eternity, became the seed in the Virgin Mary. God could 99.99% probably have been addressing the then unmanifested Jesus Christ.

Praise God for his unsearchable wisdom!
you have given us argued quotes based on falacies by stringing together bits of carefully selected quotations,each surgically removed from context that would give it a rational and divine meaning.

[cosh]

Piedrasalvador, is God's word the truth because the bible says so?

[Piedrasalvador]

Piedrasalvador, is God's word the truth because the bible says so?

Hi Cosh, your question is huge it set me roaming my self- imposed cell for some time. I don't know where it is coming from...from the immediately preceding post or from another which was addressed to Theomagi but has unfortunately been deleted by someone.

My answer is brief ....God's Word is Truth partly because the bible says so, because other holy books say so and because I am a living testimony and have seen and experienced the Truth.

Theomagi, I gave you the earlier promised Title of the book. did you catch it before the post was deleted?

[cosh]

Piedrasalvador, my question came mainly after reading most of your postings, but was triggered by your penultimate one.
Mere statements from the bible or other holy books does not prove truth, your personal experience and testimony would be worth more.

[theomagnusen]

Piedrasalvador, my question came mainly after reading most of your postings, but was triggered by your penultimate one.
Mere statements from the bible or other holy books does not prove truth, your personal experience and testimony would be worth more.
thanks Cosh for been truthful to PiedraSalvador.

[theomagnusen]

Hi Cosh, your question is huge it set me roaming my self- imposed cell for some time. I don't know where it is coming from...from the immediately preceding post or from another which was addressed to Theomagi but has unfortunately been deleted by someone.

My answer is brief ....God's Word is Truth partly because the bible says so, because other holy books say so and because I am a living testimony and have seen and experienced the Truth.

Theomagi, I gave you the earlier promised Title of the book. did you catch it before the post was deleted?
Mr Moderator, i never had it.resend to my email

[Piedrasalvador]

Piedrasalvador, my question came mainly after reading most of your postings, but was triggered by your penultimate one.
Mere statements from the bible or other holy books does not prove truth, your personal experience and testimony would be worth more.


Cosh, thanx for the vote of confidence in the personal experiences and testimonies as some measure of truth, at least, as against the written or revealed Word of God. Take it from me you are wrong in judgment. Personal testimonies and experiences not grounded in the very Word of God (written or revealed) are bound to fail the test of Truth. All credit to God... first and foremost.

Mr lizard said ''he feels not as offended by the man who stoned him as by the praisesinger of the stone thrower.

Theomagi, The title of the book is ''Pan African Renaissance and the Hidden Prophecy'' by Sampson Joe Banning..incredible stuff in there...Have requested for a copy for your ill-equipped black school...lol

[theomagnusen]

Cosh, thanx for the vote of confidence in the personal experiences and testimonies as some measure of truth, at least, as against the written or revealed Word of God. Take it from me you are wrong in judgment. Personal testimonies and experiences not grounded in the very Word of God (written or revealed) are bound to fail the test of Truth. All credit to God... first and foremost.

Mr lizard said ''he feels not as offended by the man who stoned him as by the praisesinger of the stone thrower.

Theomagi, The title of the book is ''Pan African Renaissance and the Hidden Prophecy'' by Sampson Joe Banning..incredible stuff in there...Have requested for a copy for your ill-equipped black school...lol

never mind my words but you are also invited to our school if you so wish.